UPDATE: This blog has been temporarily declared a sanity-free zone. Twinfan/Michael & Yogi/Yankee/SOAB have some issues they are working out. Control of the blog will be returned to your host, momentarily.
And I mean all of you! Thanks for the input, and the new ideas. I was going to go with Yogi's suggestion of more culture, but frankly I don't know enough about yogurt to fill a whole blog. (These are the jokes, folks.)
I have come up with a semi-solution for the initial comments - not today's, but in the future. I can set the parameters so that I have to 'approve' the comments before they post on the thread. So, when I first publish a post, I will set that up. You won't get to see your comments right away, but at least the first few will pertain to the post, and not the comments. After that, I will just let you all have at it. Basically, no indecency or sales pitches (not a problem thus far - anonymity has it's benefits!)
And, per Suza's request, I will attempt to post more than twice a week...though that may require a broader mission than just politics - but isn't everything political, in some way??? (Maybe, if I try really hard, and you squint your eyes...?)
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Yikes, twinnie! You must have had your Wheaties this morning!
I rarely eat breakfast foods in the morning.Today was spaghettini with broccoli rabe and browned garlic...
But yes, bring on the Douche Nozzle and let's talk "culture"...
Let's get Woods,Buscemi, a ruler, and settle it once and for all...
Culture? Can we have some parameters there, too? Here's a start -- nothing to do with Veronica Mars, unless FH mentions it in her initial post.
SOAB/Gina: Ferret obviously enjoys your company here ( in SOAB's case) or tolerates it (Gina)... God knows why. You two destroy every thread. Two strong arguments for abortion, I must say. Anyway, if Jean is ever able to steer this back to what she intended, and she asks me to participate here, I'll be glad to do so.
I promised I would leave, but Twinfan is implying I posted anonymously at 3:53.
I'm a vegetarian, I believe that TF's ghostly palor is a result of eating too much meat. His smug mug just reflects his personality.
No, I knew that the post was Gina's; it is SOAB, however, who has an unhealthy interest in large cocks. That *is* culture to SOAB.
My pallor is healthy, thank you. Your inner soul is what is "ghostly"..
Michael said..."Culture? Like whether James Woods has the biggest dick in Hollywood?"
Michael said..."Let's get Woods,Buscemi, a ruler, and settle it once and for all..."
Michael said..."No, wanting to know who has the biggest dick is in the realm of "keep your fucking toes in your own bathroom stall, SOAB..." Science, indeed."
Michael said..."it is SOAB, however, who has an unhealthy interest in large cocks"
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Project much Twinfan?
Geez TF, you mean you googled me to find that. Here's the entire quote. I was describing Patrick McHenry. Now google him and please tell me where I got it wrong.
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Yogi Barrister // April 6, 2008 at 1:41 am
Who was exposed? Certainly not you. Rachel Maddow has a huge national following, and is unquestionably the best on air debater going. She chews up little shits like Pat Buchanan and spits them out . You on the other hand, really are a nobody.
And that teeny-tiny, chickenshit, queer, wet douche Patrick McHenry is your representative, if not in Congress, your political persuassion. I won’t comment further, lest I attract readers to this jerkwater corner of the blogosphere.
So tell me Michael, how often do you get these thoughts that SOAB has an unhealthy interest in large cocks?
That was one of about a thousand one can find JUST under YogiBarrister, let alone SOAB's dozens of other user names. Yes, that one WAS describing a public figure, SOAB is just as "generous" in attacking fellow posters on the scores of blogs he comments on. You don't need to look far to see the same crap from this slimy douche queen.
"Dr. Freud said...
So tell me Michael, how often do you get these thoughts that SOAB has an unhealthy interest in large cocks?"
Maybe it was after the Woods remark on LaSalle, perhaps it was the one before that, or, I,dunno: maybe it was after the 83rd time, or maybe, just maybe it was after one of the 3,120 times he's called a fellow commenter a "prick"... so, you choose, Doctor..
And, BTW: use one screen name, twat.
Dr. Freud asked... "So tell me Michael, how often do you get these thoughts that SOAB has an unhealthy interest in large cocks?"
Michael said..."Maybe it was after the Woods remark on LaSalle, perhaps it was the one before that, or, I,dunno: maybe it was after the 83rd time, or maybe, just maybe it was after one of the 3,120 times he's called a fellow commenter a "prick"... so, you choose, Doctor"
Dr. Freud said..."Hmm...I see"
"Dr. Freud said...'Hmm...I see"
Yes, veddy interseting that you choose a thoroughly discredited psychiatrist...
Jean, I'll leave you and the thoughtful posters your blog. Even before I posted here, SOAB was taking shots at me. That's cool, I can handle the little shit,I always do, but your contributors don't need it. If he and Gina would honor their promises to get the fuck out as well, your blog will be restored. Ciao, Bella...
twinnie - don't go!!!
Are you really surprised that your attempt to "discuss politics" resulted in opinions that weren't totally in synch with yours? Do you think you can just blather on until everyone agrees with you? Differences in opinion are what makes the world go 'round, and what makes dinner table conversation a little more interesting.
Coward - I didn't expect everyone to agree with me, I just was hoping for more intelligent discourse than some of you are capable of. My bad!
Anonymous might have been talking to me, I don't know. But there is civil discussion and lively back and forth when the Douche Nozzle and his equally evil right hand aren't participating. FH: why don't you check IP addresses, Yogi might be snivelly enough to use a proxy or some such subterfuge, but I doubt that "Gina" is up to it... might be interesting...
I found this article very interesting.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090121122936.htm
Link Between Social Rejection And Aggressive Behavior Explained
ScienceDaily (Jan. 23, 2009) — People who feel socially rejected are more likely to see others' actions as hostile and are more likely to behave in hurtful ways toward people they have never even met, according to a new study.
The findings may help explain why social exclusion is often linked to aggression – which sometimes boils over dramatically, as in the case of school shootings, for example.
"Prior case studies show the majority of school shooters have experienced chronic peer rejection," said the study's lead author, C. Nathan DeWall, Ph.D., from the University of Kentucky. "And while not everyone who feels rejected reacts violently, we found they tend to act out aggressively in other ways. We wanted to help explain psychologically why this happens." A full report of the study appears in the January issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, published by the American Psychological Association.
DeWall conducted four separate experiments with 190 participants, all college students.
In one experiment, 30 participants completed a personality test and were given bogus feedback about the results. A third of the participants, the excluded group, were told their personalities would mean they would probably end up alone later in life. The rest of the participants, the control group, were either told they would have many lasting and meaningful relationships or were given no feedback at all.
All participants were then instructed to read a personal essay supposedly written by another participant, whom they did not know. The essay was about an event in which the author's actions could be perceived as either assertive or hostile and the participants rated their impression of the author's actions. They were also told that the author was up for a research assistant position and were asked whether they thought the author would be a good candidate, based on what they had read.
Participants who were told they were going to have a lonely life perceived the author's actions as significantly more hostile and gave a much more negative evaluation than those in the control groups. The authors also note that the participants' moods did not seem to differ among the different groups, which led them to conclude that the participants' emotional response to their personality results did not play a role in how they performed in the experiments.
In another experiment, 32 students underwent the same bogus personality evaluation and rated the same essay from the previous experiment. Again, some were told they would lead a lonely life while others were assigned to the control groups. This time, participants were led to believe they were playing a reaction-time computer game with another person in the lab whom they could not see and had never met. During the game, the loser of each trial was forced to listen to a blast of white noise through headphones. The participants could set the noise's intensity level and duration.
Those who were told they were going to have a lonely life blasted a higher level of the painful noise than those in the control groups. "Across all experiments, the participants who experienced some form of social rejection acted in similar ways," said DeWall. "This suggests these people feel betrayed by others. In turn, they see otherwise neutral actions as hostile and behave badly towards others."
Prior research has examined whether emotions play a role in this type of aggression, but this study's researchers say their findings do not support this idea. "Excluded people see the world through blood-colored glasses and it is our hope that this research can lead to a better understanding of why rejection causes aggression and what we can do to prevent such unwanted and harmful behavior," said DeWall.
Interesting article Mindful Life. Though I don't know if a scientific study was really necessary. I'm sure it's something all human beings have witnessed, whether of themselves or others, at one time or another. It can get downright creepy/scary when the rejection is over romantic overtures. On the part of both sexes.
Interesting article Suza. How about bullying, the need for some people to try and enforce the ostracizing of others? Those are the people I can't stand. I made my reputaion in high school my freshman year, by nearly choking to death a senior whose mission was to beat up members of the JV soccer team, because we were the first to lose a game that fall. I went on to become a decent wrestler and the bully ended up becoming a NY State trooper. Go figure.
That was a turning point in my life though. In middle school I was much more likely to be the bully myself. Afterwards, I was always drawn to the outcasts, at least the ones that had interesting artistic pursuits. I also started using my first name again, which I used to be embarrassed by because it was so foreign sounding. In middle school I had a need to conform. As I got older I appreciated the things that made me unique, no longer caring if I was popular.
On Mick's blog, most of the people here jumped all over Hartal, even though he is by far the most politically informed commenter there. I suppose many of his posts are his way of blasting white noise back at his tormenters.
I don't know, YC. I feel like I've had my share of being sought after and popular and my share of being socially ostracized both in school and work situations - and frankly at this point in my life I prefer not to be singled out unless it is by my employer for monetary gain.
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None-the-less, I try to be as kind as I can to people I meet in real life and online until they either say someting so incredibly ignorant that it offends me or until they attack me personally. Even then, at work I am still polite, although I keep a list in my head of people who are jerks. I am certain that I have been needlessly cruel to others out of anger or because I was venting about something else, but in the situations when I have regretted it and feel it is warranted, I apologize. I'm not afraid to ever say "I'm sorry" unless I think it will inflame the situation or else I'm not really sorry.
For example, I am sorry that I said those cruel things to Gina about her family life and financial situation, no matter the provocation. I deleted that post. I am human and I get angry just as everyone else does. I also realize that there may have been many miscommunications and misunderstandings caused by whatever it is that causes those things and by our different communication styles. Still, I have not (and will not) apologize to her because I do not wish to re-open those lines of communication that have proved to be troublesome and tiresome in their repetitiveness.
As far as bullying goes, I don't think you can count middle school bullies - too much going on there in kids.
Obviously everyone can be inconsiderate and rude sometimes, but sustained and targeted bullying comes out of insecurity and a desire to be recognized - even if it is negative recognition.
I don't agree with Hartal's approach. I think he would not be subject to as much ridicule if he communicated better - or perhaps understood the limitations of electronic communication. I sincerely bemoan his inability to recognize sarcasm (which is hard for all of us at times, but he is consistent), and overblown negative rhetoric. Unfortunately, I do not find him to be especially politically informed. He is very academic, didactic and condescending in his language. I think, from his postings, that he is rather young, perhaps still in college and very idealistic - to the point of being intolerant of others' opinions and knowledge.
Still, good on him for being persistent and still trying to get his message across despite the negative responses he receives. I still think he needs some polish in delivering the message. That's my opinion.
And that is the end of my own epic post...what is your real name, by the way? The embarassing one? :)
WV: perge
My main issue with the conflict between TF and Yogi is that I like both of them (as much as anyone can say they "like" a person in this medium), and I dislike conflict between people I like. I think Suza long ago made a comment to similar effect. I disagree with the various assessments of Reese and Hartal; Reese is nothing but a provocateur with an agenda, and Hartal is culturally challenged. Neither is as smart as he thinks he is, coming from the perspective of "the smartest guy in the room" (truthfully, it would be difficult for me to lay claim to that title given how I tend to dabble in everything rather than focus on one thing).
wv: codene :-X
Great pic, DSG. And I second those thoughts.
WT, thank you very much. If I were half as good looking as my dad was, I'd be a lucky guy.
Why don't you show us your mug and let us be the judge of that?
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Hartal got "jumped all over", remember, even by posters who might have agreed with his views. Whatever one may think of Reece's political views, he was far more gracious than Hartal ever was, as he was pummeled by EVERYONE ( although it seems that Hartal can be tamed with some sitar music and a rerun of "I Remember Mama")...
SOAB has an active fantasy life slaying bullies and that's a good thing, better anomynous blog posters than real people, I wouldn't want Yogi to get hurt. But he said a weird thing in his post here: that he had a foreign sounding first name... then why did he go postal when Xoot divulged that Yogi had Id'ed himself as "John from Walnut Creek"? Yogi was going to sue him. He said bad people were after him. Setting aside how ludicrous that is ( "hey, we be lookin' for a John. That YOU?" "John" is foreign sounding? Weird.
But then we all have a story, some real, some not. Who cares, after all, we're 1s and 0s, that's all..
Well, I remember ferret and Suza both slipping up about their age.
Suza once slipped up about the race of her husband/boyfriend.
Those are just two that come to mind.
There are lots of other examples that make me wonder about the true identity of posters...I just keep telling myself to not assume anything about anyone's identity but who the person says they are. If you're X, fine. Until you say you're someone else, I'll give it to you.
Unfortunately, most liberals all sound the same...
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And here's another one about ferret. I thought I remembered her saying she's hispanic, now she's Italian.
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And it does matter if you misrepresent yourself. Especially if you engage in arguments and attack others for their beliefs--you take an unfair advantage if the other party or parties are being honest about themselves.....what you say about yourself establishes your base of credibility.
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Gina - since I still don't recall mis-representing my age - unless I was joking about something - I don't know why you keep harping on that. I have never said I was Italian. I have an Italian last name, but I was adopted. When I was 29 I found out that my birth father was Mexican, therefore I am Hispanic, but mostly I consider myself to be White, a mutt, or a child of the planet...
I've put my freakin' name on the blog, so if I'm trying to hide my real self, I'm doing a piss poor job of it!
I hear your pain, FH. I think I was also accused of misrepresenting my age at some point. Weird that someone who doesn't know us and only reads what we write would accuse us of misrepresenting instead of their own imperfect perception of what we may have written.
I also find it amusing that some people assume that just because someone has "obama lips" it would necessarily mean they are black. sounds like a bit of a racist presumption to me since Obama isn't even completely African in his heritage, but ah well...
there is a lot of discussion about how you write what you mean and people put their own perception on top of it and can come away with completely different perceptions. Human brains - we're imperfect so far...
I'd prove it to both of you if my computer wasn't so frickin' slow.
I really don't care, anyway.
When I consider the value of what people say, I look for inconsistencies in the things they say. It helps me calculate how much credibility they have and how I respond to them. If you choose to lie, that's your business. The truth eventually reveals its ugly/beautiful little head.
I make it a policy to always tell the truth, even if it hurts. That way if my veracity is ever called into question, I'm the one that comes out victorious. ggg
Twinfan, I went postal because that "John B. from Walnut Creek" came from Tim Goodman's blog to get tickets to an event. Most of the people posted their real names. Had I done so, Xootsuit would have posted that on the Splash. The motivation behind that act was positively creepy. TooSense might remember a cheery fellow using the screen name Klingon, later to become, The Tree. This guy was a real psycho, every post had some veiled or overt threat. Who in their right mind would want to have a guy like that know your real name? I'm listed in the phone book, so Klingon would have been able to pay me a visit.
As for my real name, it's Janek, but my family calls me John. My last name is Norwegian also, so I never fit in with all the Michaels and Davids of the day.
As for the bully I got into a fight with my freshman year. Reread the post. I never said I slayed him or even won the fight. I said I nearly choked him to death. After the fight I had a black eye and swollen lip but his face was the color of an eggplant.
And where did you get the idea PC is gracious? Christ you're a fucking tool TF. Just think about some of your actions. Remeber when Xootsuit saw something I posted on Mick's blog about doing a portrait of Jennifer Jason Leigh? He goes over to the Splash and alerts those douchebags. What did you do TF? You created a new screen name, Rosa Z, and posted that you thought it was creepy to make a portrait of an actress. You implied that I must be a stalker. Huh? Why is that creepy? How can Xootsuit going to the Splash to enlist support against me( or posting John B. from Walnut Creek), not be condsidered creepy? How can a decrepit old fool, pretending to be a woman calling me creepy, not be considered creepy. Recently you posted a rape fantasy about an actress. You asked me if I wanted you and Xootsuit to hold her down for me. Oh yeah, when Babbler said the Contra Costa sheriff should be shot for issuing me a carry permit, you though that was funny and a legitimate joke, but then cried foul when BigFlavor made a joke about jamming a bat up ypour ass.
WTF dude? You are really fucking weird.
Geez...you all sound like sick bastards. Glad I lived tucked away in the middle of nowhere behind a locked gate, well-guarded...
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wv: TROLIN...haha..that's funny ferret
So are we Gina
Gates keep people in as well as out...
Uh-huh. That's true...it's a real Cuckoo's Nest around here.
Now you should all feel safe.
And, for the record Suza, your slip-up was something very teensy and tiny--something about your husband having white guilt. You then tried to cover your mistake with some lame kinda explanation. And then we find out Mr. Goob isn't really Mr. Goob at all--just some sorta live-in, or stand-in, or whatever the case is.
I'm not going to get into it with you all over again, SOAB, for the sake of others.
I created Rosa Z. after you had created your own new screen name to pretend you had a sympathetic ear .. we both got busted and that was terribly funny....
Anyway, as I said, your fantasies ( or anyone else's) are totally cool. If you want to think you spank the nutsos and it sends you to bed happy, it's just fine. You're not harming anyone. You can post some charming stuff when you have a mind to, you know.
As far as the "bat episode", I explained that. I'll give you the benefit, perhaps you didn't read it. That was not some stupid comment from an anonymous blogger. I had sent that bat to BF. He knew I had a Scott McClain bat and wanted it. It was no big deal to me so I sent it to him at his office. My rection to his "threat" to jam the bat up my behind was because of the incredible rudeness of it, seeing as it had been a gift. Under those circumstances it was outrageous.
Gina, your excuse for your computer being too slow to search is rather convenient. I challenge you to find what you claim I said and send everyone here the link.
No, I'm not going to wallow in that nut LaSalles blog pages and give him and the Hearse Corpse any more free clicks.
Someone else must remember that you said it...I can't possibly be the only observant person out there, can I?
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