(My favorite special)Our dear Gina brought up the notion that Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ. Now, while I do have a spiritual bent, you won't find any days of worship on my calendar. There are many holidays that are celebrated at this time of year: Christmas, Hanukkah, Eid, Yule, etc. There is also the school of thought that says that the Christians co-opted the celebration of the solstice to bring the pagans into the fold, as it were.
As neither Christian, Jew, Muslim, Pagan, etc., Christmas has significance for me due to the fact that everyone I know celebrates the day, in whatever way makes sense for them. I love that people seem a little friendlier, but there is also a lot of stress in the season - lonely, poor, or depressed people feel pressure to be jolly. A time of joy for others, becomes a burden to some. (Note: Johnny Mathis is just this moment singing "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year" - yes, I'm listening to holiday music!)
So, what does the holiday mean for you? Is it a joyous time, hard work, or just another day? Are you looking forward to it, or just wish it were already over? Any fun holiday stories you'd like to share? (Gina?) Best gift you ever gave or got?
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For my 1st birthday, my father got me an awesome set of Lionel electric trains. I wasn't able to set them up or even operate them, but I've been told my dad got years of enjoyment out of them.
Oh, I have the best Christmas story. You'd love it. It would put everything about me into perspective. But if I tell you, someone might recognize me and then my cover would be blown...Yule just have to wait until the end of the world to find out what it is.
wv:zercul--you know what that says in French!
I love Christmas. The whole christmas season...don't ask me why, no one quite knows the reason.
I love Christmas in the City. I love Union Square all pretty and lighted up.
This year may be the first year I don't spend the holidays with my parents, and if I'm not able to, it just won't feel right. It would be a bummer to wake up on christmas morning and instead of their tree and the ornaments they've had since I was a baby, seeing my cute little mini tree.
Christmas is awesome. My fam is awesome. Best. Holiday. Ever.
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I used to love Christmas, as a kid and early on as a parent. Then the clouds descended. Deaths, expected and unexpected, suicides included, and attempted suicides of loved ones for good measure, visited every holiday season for 6or 7 years in a row. Last year wasn't bad, however. And so far this season has been OK.
But I'm still on edge.
So, happy holidays. And, for god's sake, peace.
Christmas is OK, but nothing compared to the 4th of July in pre-Giuliani Brooklyn. You could blow up anything you wanted and get away with it. Fun times...
I see we can no longer delete our own comments. Too bad. I don't know what I was thinking when I posted above. Talk about ruining a party. Sorry.
xootsuit - I certainly didn't take that ability away...at least, not on purpose. (Half the times I don't know what effect checking boxes will have...) I'm glad you didn't delete your comment - the holidays can be very hard. Especially, when we stop and consider loved ones who won't be celebrating with us. Your post is a reminder to all of us to be thankful for those who are still present to celebrate this Christmas with us. I am sorry for your losses...and I couldn't have said it better myself: "for god's sake, peace."
Maybe you can't delete if you don't sign in?
Sorry. Couldn't resist. Anyone else enjoy the thunder and lightning in the East Bay today? Lots of flash; no gloom or doom.
Xoot: That was the longest sustained hail I've seen...
Every Christmas Eve, my friends ALL THE WAY BACK FROM JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL get together and drink, sing songs, eat, remenisk (sic)... but this year I think we'll be bringing a new tradition into the fold.
Throwing shoes at each other.
Just don't 'reminisque' too much,or you'll be hurling those shoes.
Do you know what I want for Christmas? I want that Babbler fellow. Don't tell him, though-- I'm hoping I'll find him stuffed in my stocking come Christmas Morning...
Anonymous - easy there! Babbler is the adopted son of twinfan and myself. He is such an innocent, we were afraid he wouldn't be safe in this cruel world.
BTW - I had to read your post a couple of times...I thought you wrote that you wanted to see him stuffed in your stockingS. Ah, the difference on little consonant can make!
He's no innocent. He's smarter than everyone else...and I know he's not a child is he?
If he's not, I'll take him in my stockings, too.
I never knew that part-that he was your son-- did you create this character? I always assumed that he was an adult.You shouldn't allow him to play with the big kids, that's just irresponsible of the two of you.
Anonymous - no, on the eve of our nuptials, I urged twinfan that we should adopt Babbler. It didn't matter that he is an adult, he said something - I forget what - that reminded me of Woody on "Cheers"...it was my protective instinct that led me to adopt sweet Babs.
That said, as long as your a nice person, I have nothing against you and Babs becoming 'friends'...who share clothing, apparently.
Well, thank God. After I threw up a lot, I took a very long, hot shower and said ten Hail Mary's for added measure.
So, uh, Babs is not gay or anything else, is he?
It's like Sybil in here again.
What is that supposed to mean Mr. Sense?
What's with this word thing at the bottom...what in the hell is a shwat?
My oldest son was born just before Christmas, some decades back. My wife and I were both still in the early stages of our careers. Money was tight, but not oppressively so. We exchanged simple presents. And we took care of the baby around the clock. Photographs from that week show two exhausted looking parents. But, of course, in the photos we're both holding the little guy, and smiling.
Best Christmas I've had.
Hey! CHARLIES BROWN'S CHRISTMAS is on tonight @ 8!
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I'll tell you what's wrong with this new thread. It's offensive that people that support abortion even mention Christmas like it's something they can truly partake in. You don't get it at all. You have no right to celebrate the birth of a man that said "whatever you do to the least of my brother's, that you do unto me."
Do you see how offensive it is to be so crude?
Hell if it's not. It's your sacrament. What would he say to you if you were tell him that you suport abortion and at the same time wanted to come to his birthday party?
Uh-huh. I thought so.
You're not invited Satan, sorry.
Time to bring out the big guns!!! Something told me we were going to need this tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73vcbde8Cb8
That's the shot I needed! Happy holidays, Brushfire bloggers.
I can't download youtube on my crummy computor, sorry. But I think your link proves my point--you make a mockery of the teachings of Christ by wanting to partake in the benefits of the holiday, but refusing to contribute to the feast. You're takers, not givers.
gina - I'm a giver! I'm giving you a forum to spout off and say not very nice things about your fellow brushfires posters. Honestly, try practicing a little tolerance, it will make it easier for others to tolerate you...
Gina doesn't live here anymore, it's only Zule...
By the way, did any of you catch that little Nut's column? Now I know he's utterly insane!
And, furthermore, if you don't like what I'm saying--the truth-- ignore me.
That's always an option you know.
Takers. Jesus would have a different name for you, and you guys know what it is....
Another insane representative of a diety. Will wonders never cease?
I love christmas. When I lived in a colder place, we'd set up a creche on the snow covered lawn, except instead of a manger, the baby jesus was propped on a platform above a fifty-five gallon drum filled with water. We'd charge the neighborhood kids $5 to throw snowballs at the little target to see who could dunk him, swaddling clothes and all, into the icy waters. Ah, traditions...
Aren't you afraid you'll hover forever in baby limbo for that heresy, TwoSense?
See what I mean? Why celebrate a holiday of a philosophy that you don't believe in?
I'd never show up and want to bask in the warm glow of a NARAL party.
He's insane, I mean really, really insane.
It's not like it was going to hurt him. He's omnipotent. And very well insulated.
I really do have to laugh at the mere mortals who come running to the defense of omnipotent beings. Now that is blasphemy.
http://tinyurl.com/4baytq
Blasphemy, heresy; baby limbo, hell. This "philosophy" is too complicated.
Let's just all agree to take a short vacation and have a few parties around the winter solstice -- speed the dark days away and get ready for the new year.
All in favor?
Aye! Merry Xmas, everybody!
Aye!!! Have a Kewl Yule, everybody!
fer chrissakes...bah humbug. Fakers wanna celebrate Christmas, be my guest. I suppose even reptiles need some warm glow in the winter. Just clean up after yourselves and disenfect the place when your done.
No need to worry. We disinfect after each and every one of your posts, Gina.
I must say, for one who proclaims their beliefs so loudly, you sure don't express a lot of Christian charity to your fellow humans. We are all flawed, gina, but I believe that god still loves us all.
Any good Catholic should be familiar with the Seven Deadly Sins, the 7th being the worst and deadliest: The Sin Of Pride. That is, equating yourself with God or claiming to know His will or wishes. "Vengeance is mine, AND MINE ALONE, sayeth the Lord." It's funny how many people leave out the important, middle part. And before God's agent on Earth smites me, I don't celebrate Xmas. I like Xoot's idea best...
I thought this was a political blog!
And Rudolph is MY favorite Xmas special too, the only one I own.
Nuff said to send me to Damnation? Hope so! ;-)
WT - I think I will be hard pressed to run a strictly political blog, here. You guys give me crap when I don't post often enough, and I'm not sure I have amassed a level of political knowledge that would allow me to post about only that topic.
I figured if we talked about the holidays, I could slide that into the 'personal liberties' column...
True. And I would never give you crap for not posting enough! I think running a blog is harder than people think. I didn't mean there was too little politics, I meant there was too much religion. And I believe they should be separate, lol.
You can seperate the church from state, but you can't seperate the statement from church
The Vatican abolished baby limbo more than a year ago. Or downgraded it from doctrine to hypothesis, or something like that. Part of the effort to leave the medieval days behind. Next up: qualified approval for the spray on condom!
ferret, we would never give you crap about anything. Throw shoe, maybe, but crap-giving? Never.
You're a moron wt. He specifically told us that we should not kill. Commandments are far more important than the seven deadly sins. And, what about the seven virtues, which you all seem to forget about? Your 'pride' thing is just being merciful to me...and being my brother's keeper. Incidently,our constitution and Declaration of Independence also backs me up...which neatly ties in religion and politics. And, if anyone is suffering from pride, it's types like you who can't bear the thought of exclusion based on their own shortcomings...
And, I'm like, not Gina, I told you I'm Zule....
And, left up to your types, you guys would have recommended abortion to Mary and then locked her up in a state-run nuthouse for being delusional and hearing voices.
One person can make a difference.
0:)
One more thing for the night, then Zule is retiring:
in·hu·man
Pronunciation: \(ˌ)in-ˈhyü-mən, -ˈyü-\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English inhumayne, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French inhumain, from Latin inhumanus, from in- + humanus human
Date: 15th century
1 a: lacking pity, kindness, or mercy : savage
I do have lots tolerance for humans, ferret.
I can never remember - in "Ghostbusters", is Zule the gatekeeper or the key master? Here at brushfires, Zule is the bible thumper
Sweetie, surely there's a free street corner from which you can preach. I hear sandwich boards are making a comeback...just be sure to bundle up!
It was the gatekeeper.
And it was spelled Z-U-U-L.
And it was a demon.
That's all. Nothing judgemental. Just...movie trivia.
;)
No, you have it all wrong, as usual. I'm more of a melon thumper.
And, Tedspe, I think you're refering to that knarly-looking cat of The Amanita Man.
I mean 'gnarly-looking.
I think you're refering to that knarly-looking cat of The Amanita Man.
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Took me an hour or two but I just got that
Hilda Solis for Labor Sec.
I think you got your wish, FH -- or as close to it as is politically possible. Solis is a supporter of the so-called "card check" bill, which should make union organizing much easier.
That cat looks positively diabolical.
And it has been said pets appearances reflect that of their owner's. At first I thought he was simply insane, now I think he's pure evil, too. In addition to most likely gorging himself on the Fly Agaric.
Here's some info (check out the comments at the end of the article from two labor lawyers):
http://tinyurl.com/onsolis
I like having the time off.
WV: curer. Maybe there's something to this laying of hands business after all....
Ferret, my dear: this is fro the Splash. Perhaps I can prevail upon you to drop by on the 30th for a blessing for the BOYKIN winner:
"Just a quick update to the BOYKIN situation: two races have but two contenders: Babbler and Loo for the Youngman and Clubber and Chuckles for the DOYKIN. I've tried to pick Boris' "brain" on this, but all I get is "too close to call". One major blunder could decide the DOYKIN, more likely there will be several by each. It's thrilling to see two competitors digging in and sinking deeper and deeper and...for the Youngman, Loo and Babbler have been going quip for quip all year. One side splitter could decide that one. The other major categories are ROY, the Lifetime Achievement award, and of course the BOYKIN itself. There will be a special tribute to a special contributor. It's going to be a great night. I'll be your host and I'll see if the delicious Ferrethead will bless the winner...
I hate sports.
Anonymous said...
I hate sports.
December 19, 2008 12:58 PM
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They like...oh, who am I kidding? They hate you, too!
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Dearest Michael, of course I will be there for the BOYKINs, I wouldn't miss it for the world. I bought a new gown and everything. ("Delicious"?!? I love it!)
That's because they're gay, of course.
Yuletide's upon us
On this lovely blog
Gads it's so chilly
Is there no one to snog?
Hey, I got your snog right here, duchess.
Wouldn't it be funny if we all posted under 'anonymous'?
Think of all the things we could say and how much confusion it would create...just like a masquerade ball.
You think that I am Gina
Or the sock puppet known as Kule
Got some shocking news good chums
I'm even a bigger fool
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WV-Packsan: Bush thinks it's a country near Afgansan.
oopsy, the sock puppet is Zule. Another verse ruined.
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WV-Nallooff: Al Qaeda's number three man.
Kule instead of Zule?
That's the sort of slip you might see from someone who used to hang out on The Splash, who likes word games, who has loads of free time to spend studying a British slang website. Any guesses?
our priest says that the problem with most "catholics" is that they take the religion they learned in school when they were kids and try to apply it to their grown-up lives. So, of course it doesn't fit and you get ridiculous absolutes like those proposed by anonymous over there. You can't take doctrine aimed at an 8 year old and make it work in a 38 year old life. Makes sense to me. He also didn't agree with the whole prop 8 thing. Said it wasn't his place (or any other Catholic authority's) to preach against it. Stuff like that (and abortion) is between you and God. Not you and your idiot neighbor who thinks he knows what he is talking about because he graduated from catholic high school.
suza - your priest sounds like a very wise man. I figure it's up to god to decide if I've sinned against him, and to mete out punishment as he sees fit. But, I also believe that as one of god's children, I am loved - warts and all, by my creator...
yep, that's what he said. God doesn't make garbage. no matter how "lowly" you consider someone or how much you might think they are wrong, it's not up to you to judge them. Even if they are protestants. :)
I think I'll barf. Because your priest said it, it must be true, right? Never mind what the Catholic Doctrine says. How neat and tidy for Bay Area catholic's tender ears--wouldn't want to jeopardize that collection plate, or attendance records.
A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest.
And you're right, God didn't create garbage, so why do you want to treat it as such? And then pretend to call yourselves worshipers?
I should have said: God doesn't create garbage, so why do you want to treat it as such?
I'm so pleased to see that we've returned to the abortion and birth control themes. Can we add homosexuality, too? Several lesbian couples in my neighborhood have gotten pregnant in the past year. Much wanted babies, apparently. Yet as I understand the same religious canonical stuff that damns abortionists damns those "perverts" too. And what about all us hetero folks who do our best to make abortion irrelevant by using birth control?
Sinners, all. What a religion!
And apparently, those lesbians got turkey basters stuffed in their stockings last Christmas...
Lefty, you just don't get it. My point is that no one should make the pretense of being a Christian and enjoy the benefits that come with it like celebrating the holidays or casting themselves in some sort of delusional self-rightuos light, if you don't follow the teachings of Christ. Because you don't want to followw them doesn't mean you get to redefine those beliefs according to what you want. Christianity is all about being unselfish and self-sacrificing, not about me-first thinking. It's that simple. There are plenty of other Holidays to attach yourself to. It's offensive and makes a mockery of people that hold those beliefs dear.
Abortion is selfish, and so are babies conceived because of some sort of personal agenda. As for birth control, human sex is supposed to be a giving,creative act of love, open to the possibility of creating a new life. It's degrading to reduce it to only self-satisfaction.
Gina, I get it. You want your narrow bs sect of "christianity" to own all rights to "Christmas." But it's a cultural event, as well as a religious event celebrated by many different types of christians (some of whom are pregnant lesbians, I suspect).
You reduce everything to your view of the way things are supposed to be. Well, you're wrong. Wrong to do be so selfishly reductive. As to whether your medieval sense of christianity is wrong I'll leave for you to ponder. If you dare.
Ponder my ass...don't make me laugh.
Christ would say that killing his Father's creation in the womb of his own mother is wrong...AND, also wrong to not speak out against what you know is wrong. So, by my own conscience, I speak for those who have no voice--the least of my brothers.
And, it's not religion that I form my opinion about pregnant lesbians, it's science. Science tells us that lesbians trying to convince themselves that they created a child together out of an act of creative love is delusional. No gettin' around that one, plain and simple.
well, you're right about the "simple" part, gina. adios.
adios.
ahhh, anonymous is a jansenist...all makes sense now...not every sin is of a sexual nature. it's more about how you treat other people, what you do for them. in my eyes, Gina...er, anonymous, your conscience is misdirecting you into believing that judging people based on how their beliefs differ from yours is somehow righteous. meek is really more the way to go...
Christ said the meek shall inherit the earth. But He didn't say what shape it would be in.
also, ps - it is extremely simplistic and uninformed to blanket every act that you don't agree with as "selfish." There are no black and whites, dear, only shades of grey. Get out of the 3rd grade.
And yes, I will put greater credence in a sincere, one to one conversation with my priest than with someone who has proven herself to be as wholely uninformed (and crazy) as you.
There goes dsgonzale6 with those Rush quotes again! Since anonymousginazule has told us what it thinks, now it's my turn. I think lesbians now how babies are made and don't really give a rat's ass. How babies are made and how (or even if) they are parented are two entirely discreet concerns. Lesbians prove it. Gay men, too. Some of them without any religious counsel at all. Imagine that. Religion... it's perfectly superfluous.
WV: 'swneyed'-- the way anonymousginazule and its god look at me as I cast my pearls before them.
Perhaps it's God that's judging you, Mindful Life, and everyone else that substitutes pets for children.
perhaps God IS judging me, anonygina, but you'd certainly never know. that's between me and God.
perhaps God isn't too pleased with YOUR attitudes towards his other creations. point that finger at yourself, missy. didn't you talk about a divorce earlier? Marriage is for life, isn't it? It's a sacrament. If I adopted your view I would say that you can NEVER have a divorce no matter the reason, but that's not rational, nor thoughtful, nor what Jesus taught.
The "right" kind of love? The "true" act of love? Give me a break.
Do you ginanon really think that rutting teenagers in Wasilla right now are performing a holy act but someone in a SF clinic right now happily being artificially inseminated is not?
If so, you're a dumb crank. Sorry.
You know, I've been reading this fracas for a number of days now, and I think I can resolve this arguement with just a few simple words:
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Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
A kiddley divey too, wooden shoe?
Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
A kiddley divey too, wooden shoe?
If the words sound queer and funny to your ear, a little bit jumbled and jivey,
Sing "Mares eat oats and does eat oats and little lambs eat ivy. A kid'll eat ivy too, wouldn't you?"
`
There. Are we all good now?
:)
What's that Veruca?
No, dear, I told you that if you want to go to the big party you must wear the white dress.
Yes, I know the black dress is what your friends all wear and matches with your Prada handbag. I know you think it makes you look thinner, too. But the invitation specifically says white clothing must be worn.
Veruca, please dear, don't hit me, I'm just telling you what the invitation says. They won't let you past the door unless you're wearing white. Now if you want to go to the party, you must respect the wishes of your host--it's his gig, not yours.
Veruca! Stop crying about what to wear, it won't work. Please listen. I don't want to repeat myself.White clothing is not optional--it's a requirement.
And, your white dress is so pretty. I know it has a stain, but the man in charge doesn't care about that--he only cares about whether or not you're wearing white.
The Christmas Carol of Miss Veruca
Veruca Salt:
Gooses! Geeses!
I want my geese to lay gold eggs for Easter
Mr. Salt:
It will, sweetheart
Veruca:
At least a hundred a day
Mr.Salt:
Anything you say
Veruca:
And by the way
Mr. Salt:
What?
Veruca:
I want a feast.
Mr. Salt:
You ate before you came to the factory
Veruca:
I want a bean feast!
Mr. Salt:
Oh, one of those
Veruca:
Cream buns and doughnuts and fruitcake with no nuts
So good you could go nuts
Mr. Salt:
You can have all those things when you get home
Veruca:
No, now!!
I want a ball
I want a party
Pink macaroons and a million balloons
And performing baboons and ...
Give it to me
Rrhh rhhh
Now!
I want the world
I want the whole world
I want to lock it all up in my pocket
It's my bar of chocolate
Give it to me
Now!
I want today
I want tomorrow
I want to wear 'em like braids in my hair
And I don't want to share 'em
I want a party with room fulls of laughter
Ten thousand tons of ice cream
And if I don't get the things I am after
I'm going to scream!
I want the works
I want the whole works
Presents and prizes and sweets and surprises
Of all shapes and sizes
And now
Don't care how
I want it now
Don't care how
I want it now
wow, it's smelly really crazy in here about now...
Yes, Veruca, you do smell. It must be those Verruca's on your soul.
Yeah, gina, your generosity of spirit just glows with pure light.
Why,thank you, Zootie...you're so sweet, and I agree, I am pure, heavenly light.
Did you get that nice bunch of leaves I sent you?
let me guess. I can't believe the iboga leaves are from you. Must be this other bag. Ugh! What is that stuff?
Well, still, now I have to get you something, gina. Gift certificate from Good Vibrations sound ok?
No, Zootie--the hydranga leaves. They grow wild all over the Azores. I picked them on my last visit.
I don't need anything from Good Vibrations, thank you. I prefer the real thing...warm, stiff and juicy.
I'm still holding out for Babbler in my stocking--that's the only gift I really want.
Xootie - I believe that 'anonymous' is referring to some pictures on gina's blog..
I must say, my excitement of passing 100 comments was somewhat dampened when I actually read some of them....
Anonymous seems concerned that we'll all be bounced at heaven's door. Frankly, I have no intention of going anywhere near that crappy neighborhood.
When I was in high school, we took in a foster sister, who just needed a home until she graduated that following spring. During her stay, she became born again. I remember a discussion we had once, where she said that only people that had accepted Jesus as their savior would be welcome in heaven. I asked about Jews, agnostics, etc. No, she said, they wouldn't be welcome. I told her that if heaven was filled with people like her, I didn't want to go there. Obviously, she and I held vastly different ideas of what heaven meant.
Heaven... heaven is a place, a place where nothing (nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing)... nothing ever happens.
My, what interesting thoughts from people that have the audacity to celebrate Christmas...
You know, ferret, if you're such a non-believer, why don't you develop a spine and tell your Auntie you just don't believe in religion--think of how much money you'd save. You could buy your pets new toys or something equally fun.
And TooSense. No one ever said you had to believe in anything. My whole point was, and I'll make it again:
Why celebrate a holiday that you disagree with philosophically? It's hypocritical. You're hogs. You want to enjoy the goodwill of the celebration, but you contribute nothing to party. You're like slovenly party crashers--the unwanted guests that show up and help themselves to the food and booze and consider their presence an honor. You look like absolute fools yammering about songs and gifts as if joy and generosity mean the least bit to you.
YOU SUPPORT KILLING INNOCENT LIVES! JESUS WOULD NOT LIKE YOU AT HIS PARTY!
gina - your Jesus might not, but the one I've read and heard about probably would. Do you think he'd enjoy a good fart joke? That would make him a big hit with my family...
You'd also do well to acquaint yourself with the phrase 'free will'. It is a gift to us from our creator, that allows us to choose the path we take, in the hopes that it will lead us to a better place. Honestly, your constant harping on this one issue makes me almost want to go to medical school, just to become a gynecologist! You know what I'd do then? UNFETTERED ABORTIONS FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
unferretheaded abortions for everyone? Wow.
Gina, your Jesus is a figment of your lack of imagination.
btw, based on your responses earlier today, I have to ask -- do you make a living drafting "re" lines for spam email message crooks? Your mildly porno forays suggest as much. (If not, you oughta look into opportunities in the field.)
What a hully gully topic this has become...
This, just in, from a Texas newspaper. The confession:
" Me and Bobby was like headin' to the abortion place to bomb them killers when we's seen this black dude smilin' at this nice white girl. So we's wasn't allowin' that.... anyways, he won't do it agin, you know?
Anyways, life is like sacred, abortin' babies is jes wrong...."
I didn't bring Christmas up, you did. I just reacted to what you said and now you're labeling me and harassing me because I point out that all of you are a bunch of fakes and hypocrites for pretending to be some sort of Christians. Anyone that supports abortion is the antithesis of Christmas. So quit pretending you're anything else.
And Zootie, I like sex, so what--most normal people do. I'm French and Italian and The Big Greek keeps me all charged up--what can I say?
Now ferret's making Rush references. I think since jesus is obviously the outdated lord of the obnoxious, I'll just celebrate Rushmas this year. Sorry, gina, we have assumed control... we have assumed control... we have assumed control... Hey! Look at that! I just opened my email and lo and behold, an evite from jesu! Don't worry gina, I'll put in a good word for you at the door, but don't blame me if the eggnog disappears before Peter finishes scoffing at your garments.
To the rest of you, a very happy holiday to you and yours! Let's not forget the real meaning of christmas, however you choose to define it.
In Heaven...everything is fine. You've got your good things, I've got mine...
Gina, anybody who lists Gone With The Wind as her favorite book and movie should not be accusing other people of being selfish. It was written by and for self-indulgent women who love fashion.
Excuse me while I dispatch my boy to Atlanta on an urgent mission.
"Governments can err, Presidents do make mistakes, but the immortal Dante tells us that divine justice weighs the sins of the cold-blooded and the sins of the warm-hearted in different scales.
Better the occasional faults of a Government that lives in a spirit of charity than the consistent omissions of a Government frozen in the ice of its own indifference.
There is a mysterious cycle in human events. To some generations much is given. Of other generations much is expected. This generation of Americans has a rendezvous with destiny."
Uh-huh. You mean like violating its own constitution by depriving some of its citizens the right to life, and profiting from the lives of innocent people?...is that the kind of charity he meant?
gina - you'll have to ask your Jesus what FDR meant...
TooSense - I don't know any Rush songs, except part of "Tom Sawyer"...did they sing about unfettered abortion???
ferret, no songs about abortion, but they did sing about 'phantom fears and kindness that can kill'... gina will have to fill you in about that.
I'm not paying any attention to you, NOSENSE, since you're a devout believer in nothing...but I think I get it now--abortion is a mercy killing, right?
I'll have to check - is that my first Hitler shout out?!?! My blog has been validated!!! (And Gina, I'm afraid your argument, by extension has been invalidated...
I think there's an extra 'e' in arguement.
Yeah FH, you need to fix that.
And judgement. That's an accepted variant. And so is facist...don't forget that word.
By the stench in here you'd think someone rolled the stone from the grave of St. Weyrich.
Darlingest love of my life--I have a secret message for you. I longer smoke clove cigarettes. The Big Greek said that it was a deal-killer--so, for the sheer pleasure of his presence, I quit.
Here's a funny fact for your over-worked little head, er, brain: did you know that men over six feet tall are exceptionally well-proportioned?
Now what are you/suza/jc gonna ride me for?
I no LONGER smoke them--but I think you got my meaning, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBxCBi3C67k
I might be able to understand your funny joke if this computer didn't have so many blockers on it. I can't play anything, even youtube.
But what I think I pieced together is that you think I'm judgmental. And sorry, that typical liberal accusation never flies with me. A Christian--who calls themselves a Christian-- oughtta make an effort to not sin. I mean what makes it a sin is knowing that you're doing something wrong, and you keep doing it anyway--or encourage other people that what you proclaim as a Christian is excusable. Like Suza still supporting abortion.
That was poorly written--it's early and I haven't had my coffee yet. Let me rephrase myself.
What makes something a sin is when a person/Christian knowingly does something sinful, but keeps doing it anyway...or encourages other people to do the same. And then has the gall to call themselves a Christian.
And Suza--tell that preist of yours to get his saintly rogue ass over here and tell us that abortion is a personal matter between you and God--I wanna hear it from the horses mouth--not yours. 'Cause there's plenty of evidence that the Catholic Church says it ain't no such thing.
Cat - if I may be so informal - ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
I can never be sure if my kittehs are angels sent from ceiling cat, or basement cat's minions... It's bad enough when my cats watch, but now that I know ceiling cat is watching?!?!
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